How Do You Like It So Far uses pop culture to take soundings of a society in transition, exploring intersections with civic imagination and engagement, and social and political change. Henry Jenkins and Colin Maclay are your guides on this adventure.

Episode 60: Inside the Peabody Awards with Jeff Jones, Lorraine Ali and Marcy Carsey

First off, we hope each and every one of you are staying safe, washing your hands, and keeping somewhat sane during the Coronavirus outbreak of 2020.  We are holding steady and continuing to record the podcast (remotely … so basically we don’t see each other except on computer screens, but thankfully technology has come in handy).  We recorded this one on March 10th before things really went down and USC became a remote campus (we miss the Media Center, but it is necessary for our team to stay away). This week we bring you a special episode about The Peabody AwardsHenry has been a juror since 2013 and invited several of his fellow “Peabuddies” to USC for a discussion about the importance of the awards and how they are different from the Emmy, Grammy or Academy Awards.  Henry’s “Peabuddies” are Jeffrey P. Jones, the Director of the Peabody Awards, Marcy Carsey, longtime television producer of shows like Roseanne and That 70’s Show, and Lorraine Ali, TV, Culture, and Media Critic at the LA Times.  Henry and Colin dive deep into the gravitas of the awards which recognize “stories that matter” through a mix of artistic achievement and social impact.  The Peabody Awards are often the first to recognize innovative new talents and have been ahead of the curve in reflecting the push towards more diverse and inclusive content.  Although they don’t discuss judging specifics, they do shed light on the deliberative process of Peabody judging and how 19 peers, from TV producers, journalists, critics, scholars, etc. must unanimously vote on award winners.  The judges feel that it is important to say “this is special” when awarding a Peabody, but they also change their minds during the judging process as each judge brings a new perspective to the discussion. They tell us that debating is fun and stimulating (don’t you want to be a fly on that wall?!).   Listen in as Henry, Colin and the rest of the “Peabuddies” consider how race, industry backgrounds, and diversity of the judges can have an impact on The Peabody Awards. They talk about how TV can pivot faster towards cultural movements which has created an exciting “firehose” of content. Looking for podcasts, TV shows, and other things to binge during your period of self-isolation?  Check out the episode notes below for some suggestions!

Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:

TV Shows, web series, and extended video formats mentioned in this podcast:
Random Acts of Flyness
The Good Place
Louis C.K.’s “Horace and Pete” (like Playhouse 90)
The Handmaid’s Tale
Game of Thrones
Our Boys
Beyonce’s Lemonade

Radio Shows and Podcasts mentioned in this podcast: 
The Green Hornet
Amos ‘n’ Andy
Quiz Shows
Mars Patel podcast 
Ear Hustle
Have You Heard George’s Podcast?

Movies Mentioned in this podcast: 
12 Angry Men

Documentaries mentioned in this podcast: 
William Stott, Documentary Expression and Thirties America – “reportage”
Lorraine Hansberry: Sighted Eyes, Feeling Heart
Jazz Ambassadors
Sheikh Jarrah, My Neighborhood
Erika Cohn’s The Judge
Multi-part docs – O.J.: Made in America, Leaving Neverland
Selena Gomez immigration series
Surviving R. Kelly
Lorena Bobbitt series
Steven Spielberg

Other Peabody Award Recipients Mentioned in this podcast:
More than Mean 
Steven Universe (Rebecca Sugar
Homecoming King & Patriot Act

Walter Kronkite quote, “You count your Emmys, you cherish your Peabodys.”

Peabody Mantra: “Stories that matter”

Larry Grossberg,  “We all possess different mattering maps…”

Sheila Nevins

Grand Theft Auto

Emerging VoicesIssa Rae, Donald Glover, Hasan Minhaj, Aziz Ansari

Newton Minow, “vast wasteland”

Oscar Gandy – Pay-per-view world

Peabody Ceremony in LA

Rita Moreno lifetime achievement award acceptance speech last year

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Episode 59: On Communities with Colin and Henry

Oh, do we have a special episode for you How Do You Like it So Far? fans!  This week, Colin and Henry discuss communities and their presence in digital and physical spaces and use old How Do You Like it So Far? episodes as talking points!  We made our very own podcast clip show!   Henry and Colin were intrigued over conversation opened up by Howard Rheingold an Patricia G. Lange on virtual communities.  Through this springboard, they relate their own personal accounts of fandom and digital spaces that translate to the physical world. They dive deep into the potential for people to band together through virtual communities and the instant connections formed through the digital realm.  They discuss communities through online dating, fandom and even reality TV! They talk about how online spaces created a participatory culture and a sense of optimism of uniting people. Even though there would be a transition in creating ethical and community norms for virtual communities, many early web founders had humanitarian ideals at the core.  Many companies and corporations on the other hand, cease to think about collective interest when they try to “create” communities online. They acknowledge that there is a dark side and absence of community in virtual spaces, such as through mob violence in India and vitriolic language surrounding Elizabeth Warren during her Presidential campaign.  Listen in as Colin and Henry discuss online and offline communities through the vast collection of How Do You Like it So Far? episodes and the need to keep exploring these areas of gathering in the future.  Check out our notes section for links to the episodes mentioned in this podcast!

Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:

Episodes mentioned in this podcast (also available are episode notes for more detail):  
Episode 18: Diane Winston on Religion and the entertainment media
Episode 21: Roshan Joshi from All India Bakchod
Episode 22: Benjamen Walker and Wu Ming
Episode 24 War of the Worlds, Hoaxes and Conspiracies with Nick Cull
Episode 28 Taking Risks: Comedy as a Tool For Social Action
Episode 38: Social Media Entertainment: The New Intersection of Hollywood and Silicon Valley
Episode 45: “Radicalized” with Cory Doctorow
Episode 48: Digital Diversity with Craig Watkins, Mimi Ito, and Katie Salen
Episode 50: From Memes to Movements with An Xiao Mina
Episode 56: Exploring Virtual Communities with Howard Rheingold and Patricia G. Lange

Peabody Awards – Henry on the committee, Henry’s perspective on the awards

Amy Bruckman 

Twin Peaks and its Fandom

Fandom going online

Digital literacy to bridge the computer gap

Passive Old Media and Interactive New Media

Online communities – dating

Sherry Turkle – MIT

Optimism and hope of the digital world

Fred Turner – From Counterculture to Cyberculture

Dark side and absence of community in virtual spaces

Truther MovementQAnon and Pizzagate

Howard Rheingold’s book and and crap detection

Digital media literacy to fluency – An Xiao Mina

Howard Rheingold’s work on smart mobs
Arab Spring Uprising – Radicalized from downloading American music (Michael Jackson music videos) 
March for Our Lives

Connected action can take the form of the mob violence – like in India 

Caty Borum Chattoo

Corporate entities want to create communities around a brand

Saturn and Harley-Davidson

Influencers are building on communities that are willing to incorporate them

Cory Doctorow → Monopolist structure of Facebook

Debates around portability of social media content

European efforts to introduce change in tech companies
Employees pushing for change

Increased fragmentation and mobility 

Facebook brings together people through comments sections

Reality TV provides gossip for communities 

Alvin Toffler

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Episode 58: Open TV with A.J. Christian